The whole “*insert type of criminal here aren’t real men” argument is a really played out and pathetic way to try to separate men from people who make them look bad. They’re real men. Real men beat women, rape, murder, steal, and do other horrible things. It happens. Instead of trying to separate them from the group to help you sleep at night, educate your kids to be real men you can be proud of and not have to worry about being linked to.
am I the only one who doesn’t like [insert female character here]?
she does things! things the main/dude characters wouldn’t do (unless they were under some kind of duress not like THAT would ever happen)!!!
I’m just supposed to act like she’s a kickass character because she is one??? sorry but I don’t think I can do that.
#the character’s name #the name of the show #popular abbreviation of the show name #unpopular opinion
Martha and Ginny tags summed up in one post.
If you’re a “nice guy” to a girl up until you realize she doesn’t want to date you, then go on about how she’s a cold shrew that friendzoned you and how no girls date nice guys, like, nah mate, girls do date nice guys. You just aren’t a nice guy. You’re a passive aggressive beta with internalized misogyny and a serious victim complex.
OH REALLY? Well, you’re obviously a girl who was on the receiving end of showers of gifts and kindness. Me? I was the one showering a girl with love and kindness. You didn’t put in the work, and invest your heart and soul into someone only to have it crushed and destroyed. You were the destroyer. You took it all an you took it for granted. Well guess what? The reason guys like me do all we do for you is because we genuinely like heartbreakers like you, so we put all of our time and effort into making you feel the same way. We wake up in the morning wondering what we can do to make you feel the same as we do,and how we can make you just as happy with us as we are with you. And then, you turn around and say “I just want to be friends”. Well here’s the deal: we don’t. If we just wanted a friend, you would have been treated like a friend, and not like a girlfriend. We treat you the way we want to be treated, we want to be your significant other so we treat you as ours. But, how do girls like you return our love and devotion? The heart crushing FRIEND ZONE! Obviously, we did what we did because you are single, and want to fill that gap, well in choosing not to date us, you’re saying that we aren’t good enough, that compared to NO ONE, we are inferior. You’re telling us that with all we do for you, we are less than NOTHING. Does any guy in his right mind really want to be in a friendship with a girl who thinks that he is less than nothing? No, they don’t. And that’s why we go on about how you’re a heartless demon who sucks the joy out of our lives with the terrible friend zone, BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT YOU ARE. And we go on to say that girls don’t like nice guys BECAUSE THEY DON’T. All you want is a hot guy. If you really dated nice guys, you wouldn’t go after and like the fucking douchebags that you do. If anyone is misogynist, it’s those assholes that you chase after because they’re hot. So don’t you dare say that we are in the wrong, we are not the bad guys, we are the good guys who provide all the gifts, who try to be the knight in shining armor. You know who you are? The cold, miserable bitch who turns him away and says, “no thanks, but i’m waiting for a better knight to rescue me from my tower. Until then you can ride around the base and give me stuff! Yay for friendship”. NO. You’re wrong. You are at fault for whatever response it is that you don’t like, because you created it. I hope you stay single forever becuse you probably have no idea what you have till it’s long gone and pissed off.
Well, you’re obviously a girl who was on the receiving end of showers of gifts and kindness.
Well there’s your first mistake.
Me? I was the one showering a girl with love and kindness.
And there’s your second.
You didn’t put in the work, and invest your heart and soul into someone only to have it crushed and destroyed.
Well you’re 100% right about that, I’ve never felt the need to shower girls that had no romantic interest in me with romantic favours. How is that a good idea?
You were the destroyer. You took it all an you took it for granted.
Once again, quite wrong. But this brings up an interesting little personality trait you have: without knowing anything about me, not even my sex or gender identity, you already started attacking my perceived identity as a woman and began applying your own remarkably incorrect judgements. If you fly off the handle with misogynistic accusations and personal attacks at someone that you don’t even have the slightest bit of information about I feel somewhat afraid for every woman you pass on the street and the assumptions you cast on them that have spawned undoubtedly from your psychosis.
Well guess what? The reason guys like me do all we do for you is because we genuinely like heartbreakers like you, so we put all of our time and effort into making you feel the same way.
This is so fucking creepy. Who “made” you like the girls you obsess over? Where you somehow coerced into “loving” them or did it just happen naturally? Do you really think you can “make” someone romantically interested in you if they aren’t? There’s a little thing called consent, and it doesn’t just apply to sex. If a girl isn’t consenting to your advances you back the fuck off. She isn’t interested. Not because you’re “too nice” (but maybe because you’re a fucking creep) but because she doesn’t feel the same way about you as you do about her and guess what that’s just how life is sometimes.
We wake up in the morning wondering what we can do to make you feel the same as we do,and how we can make you just as happy with us as we are with you.
See above. If a girl you were really uninterested in (unlikely considering your level of desperation) but I mean you REALLY didn’t like her just showered you with attention would that actually make you fall madly in love with her?
And then, you turn around and say “I just want to be friends”. Well here’s the deal: we don’t.
Woah there. You want to date someone but you don’t want to be friends with them? That’s fucked up. I mean, they can be your fuckbuddy (once again unlikely as they clearly hate you) but you can’t have that healthy of a relationship with someone you don’t want as a friend. My partner is my best friend. Every day I talk to her and she lights up my motherfucking world. You don’t want a girlfriend. You hate women. You hate women and they scare you and you want to fuck them and own them so they can’t hurt your wittle feelings anymore. Grow the fuck up. Fuck you and everyone like you you misogynistic scum.
If we just wanted a friend, you would have been treated like a friend, and not like a girlfriend.
See above. Also, fuck you.
We treat you the way we want to be treated, we want to be your significant other so we treat you as ours.
Now this is extremely creepy. Notice the very rapist-like train of thought. You cannot force yourself onto others. If they do not want you they do not want you.
But, how do girls like you return our love and devotion? The heart crushing FRIEND ZONE!
So what you’re saying is, basically, you think because you’re some super obsessive really creepy really misogynistic guy that throws candy and flowers at them that they owe you something in return? They aren’t asking you for this*. This is your choice. You’re setting yourself up for disappointment.
*Even if they did ask you to throw candy and flowers at them they still don’t own you anything. Accept maybe money back for the flowers. Absolutely nothing fucking else.
Obviously, we did what we did because you are single, and want to fill that gap, well in choosing not to date us, you’re saying that we aren’t good enough, that compared to NO ONE, we are inferior.
Nope, nope, nopity-nope. Women are -check this- human beings. They like to have friends in their lives and they simply made the unfortunate mistake of thinking you were one. You are not their friend. She does not have to date you just because you watch movies together. She just thought you were cool and could hang out. By the way, compared to a decent human being you are inferior and if you haven’t figured out why yet I strongly advise you start reading this again.
You’re telling us that with all we do for you, we are less than NOTHING.
You’re the one that only does “nice” things because he wants a reward. From what I’ve read the nicest thing you’ve done is not raped anyone. It’s like you’re asking for a fucking award for not raping them.
Does any guy in his right mind really want to be in a friendship with a girl who thinks that he is less than nothing? No, they don’t. And that’s why we go on about how you’re a heartless demon who sucks the joy out of our lives with the terrible friend zone, BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT YOU ARE.
Protip: people generally don’t date people that refer to them as “The heartless demon who will suck the joy out of their life with the terrible friend zone” it really isn’t seen as great behavioural subtext in a possible partner.
And we go on to say that girls don’t like nice guys BECAUSE THEY DON’T.
Funny, I’ve never had any problems finding a partner. And a lot of my friends are dating the absolute best dudes. I’ve become friends with really great guys through them. So, no. You’re dead wrong. Also, you aren’t a nice guy at all. You’re a “nice guy.” Oh yeah also I have a lot of friends that are women but guess what I am actually their friend.
All you want is a hot guy. If you really dated nice guys, you wouldn’t go after and like the fucking douchebags that you do.
It’s funny because you keep saying “you” which means that these are all directed at me. It makes reading things like this really funny.
If anyone is misogynist, it’s those assholes that you chase after because they’re hot.
Hmm, nope. Still you. Trust me.
So don’t you dare say that we are in the wrong, we are not the bad guys, we are the good guys who provide all the gifts, who try to be the knight in shining armor.
You think really highly of yourself. Every single thing you’ve ever done for a woman was motivated by your desire to fuck her. Not because she was nice. Not because you like her as a human being. Not because you wanted to make her happy. Not even because she was pretty. But because you think of women as objects and because you think you can buy them. No. Fuck no. Getting a woman a gift does not mean she should have sex with you. You are incredibly delusional if you think your creepy advances make you a knight of any order.
You know who you are? The cold, miserable bitch who turns him away and says, “no thanks, but i’m waiting for a better knight to rescue me from my tower. Until then you can ride around the base and give me stuff! Yay for friendship”.
I was waiting for you to pull the bitch card. That’s at the top of the “nice guy” deck. Now let me translate your idiocy into something a bit closer to what’s actually happening: “No thanks, I’m not interested in you like that. I would rather have you as a friend. I’m not desperate for romance and I’ll wait until someone I’m attracted to comes along for me to date them. Oh, you bought me Supernatural on blu-ray? Thank you that’s so sweet! You’re such a thoughtful friend I never ask you for anything but you’re always getting me things!”
NO. You’re wrong. You are at fault for whatever response it is that you don’t like, because you created it.
I’m sorry but I couldn’t even make heads or tails of this. What are you talking about?
I hope you stay single forever becuse you probably have no idea what you have till it’s long gone and pissed off.
OH NO WHATEVER SHALL ONE DO WITHOUT A PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE ASSHOLE THAT HARBOURS PROFOUND RESENTMENT FOR US IN OUR LIVES? Hahaha. NO. Cry more.
THIS IS SO BEAUTIFUL yesyesyesyessssss allll of thiiiisssss
thanks to this xvxavier for that awesome commentary. keep preachin!
Speechless at xvxavier’s awesomeness and Epic Getting It.
legitimate criticisms of feminism:
-transmisogyny and the lack of inclusion of transwomen
-the racist history behind it and the lack of inclusion of woc
-ignoring and invalidating women with disabilities
-pretty much anything that falls under lack of intersectionality
-internalized misogyny and girl hate
-promotion of political lesbianism
illegitimate criticisms of feminism:
-a feminist was really mean to me once
-they’re sexist against men
Sometimes it seems that white people who are “anti-racist” really feel like it’s the hardest job in the world, “Like woe is me, I’m not racist but these darkies can’t distinguish!”
I don’t think being an anti-racist is that hard. And from my perspective, black folks LOVE anti-racist whites sometimes even more intensely & obviously than they love black folks speaking the truth about their own existence. *cough* Tim Wise
Some black folks will call this bowing down to the white savior effect, but
I’ve fallen into that trap at times where I’m like, “wow, I love this white person because they’re not racist!” even though really, that’s just what any normal, good person should be like. But it still makes me really happy because I know how rare it is.
I will say that some supposedly anti-racist white people are actually really racist anyway. I see ya’ll.
The argument that black people make it hard for white anti-racists because of their lack of trust is funny to me, because they’re just back-handedly calling blacks too stupid to tell racism from an absence of it.
And then the argument that “not all whites are racist” is racist in the context of when a black person writes about white folks & an “anti-racist” white responds with “but this is racist because we’re not all racist!” makes me shake my head… so you’re gonna derail and entire topic to complain about how a black person didn’t put “some” in front of white people?
And plus, the reason I personally don’t put “some” or even “most” in front of white people is because then whites dismiss themselves from the topic at hand. If I say “some” then a white person sees it and says “Nope! This darkie isn’t talking about me!”
When contrastingly, if I just say “white people” without any qualifiers then every white person thinks of themselves when they read it. And the best way to out yourself as a racist (for future reference so ya’ll can up your pretending to be an anti-racist skill) is to respond defensively in those cases.
You just admitted that you see yourself in what I wrote. Because if it didn’t apply to you then the “some” or “most” that wasn’t there, would have been apparent in your brain.
Jussayin. Anti-racism 101 folks.
This story has been spreading around on conservative blogs and message boards for the past week or so, as the Trayvon Martin story’s gathered momentum. The short version of it is that a 13 year old boy in Kansas City was attacked by two black teenagers, set on fire, and told, “That’s what you get, white boy.”
It’s a horrible story and I’ve zero interest in arguing that one is “worse” than the other. Conservative blogs, meanwhile, have been pointing to the fact that Trayvon Martin’s story has been the subject of a lot of interest and attention, while Allen Coon’s has not, as proof that “it doesn’t matter” because the victim was white.
Here is exactly why that’s absurd: Because it does matter that Allen Coon was attacked. It matters so much that the police immediately responded. They branded it ahate crime. They conducted an investigation, and put out an APB on the attackers. They treated it exactly the way that police treat crimes that matter.
So there’s no need to hold vigils for justice in the case of Allen Coon, because justice has swiftly and readily been sought by the people tasked to seek justice.
The reason people are outraged over Trayvon Martin’s shooting is not, ultimately, because a black teenager was shot. That happens all the time, frankly. What people are outraged about is that the police didn’t seem to treat it as though a crime had occurred. They don’t feel as though justice was sought on behalf of Martin or his family, and that is why they’re outraged. This isn’t about “no child should ever be attacked and society should not rest when it happens,” because we don’t live in a world where that would be practical. It’s about the police, and the prosecutors, in Florida who failed to seek justice in any way that the people observing the case recognize as seeking justice.
Or, in short: Allen Coon’s attack was tragic and wrong, and if the police had responded to Trayvon Martin’s in the same manner that they had responded to Coon’s, this would never have become anything close to a national news story.
This is your REAL enemy! Instead of engaging in petty, catty, anonymous trash talking to two girls and a rock and roll culture magazine, why don’t you engage with ACTUAL racists? Do you know how much actual racists care about a magazine that is based in spirit in the 1970’s New York punk rock/Mad Magazine tradition? 0%. Instead of chasing phantom “racism” across the internet, why don’t you go after people who actually read “Mein Kampf” as a how to manual? Wouldn’t that be more “direct action” than resorting to proving embarrasing stereotypes about women being catty and mean to each other? For “Feminists” there sure were a lot of personal, hurtful attacks in anon that had nothing to do with the supposed “racism” in the PORK post. This kind of display is the EXACT thing that made me bow out of the Left Wing activism scene. Instead of going after actual enemies that are really out to destroy them, these “activists” fight and battle with each other and their “allies” to prove their ideological purity in scenes that are reminiscent of Soviet show trials. This is why the Left Wing hardly ever wins anything. If you look throughout History, this same thing has happened in Left Wing circles for centuries, petty squabbling, ideological purity tests, and doctrinal in-fighting have be-deviled the Left Wing forever. No thanks. I bet you’re too chicken shit to actually engage with actual racists. Prove me wrong.
of course, this isn’t ACTUAL racism. laughing at genocide isn’t racism because hey, at least you aren’t actually committing genocide! like saying a woman deserves to get raped isn’t sexism because you aren’t the one doing the raping, right? instead of doing something that might actually have an impact, like telling two people they’re being racist idiots and asking them to stop, you should be trying to single-handedly bring down the white-pride movement! and if you can’t do that then why not just let all white people do racist things?
i mean come on. ACTUAL racists would be dressed like nazis or something like that.
and not in an ironic way because that makes everything okay obviously
hey, maybe the reason you bowed out of the activist scene had something to do with the fact you obviously don’t give a shit about any oppressed people? just a thought.
Love that commentary. Nice breakdown of a classic derailing tactic.
What and absolutely glorious, righteous rant. I grabbed my laptop, ran outside and read it loudly to the Universe, with a loud “Right On!” at the end.
I cannot comment on welfare because I am not poor.
I cannot comment on racism because I am not a minority.
I cannot comment on food because I am not a chef.
I cannot comment on the sky because I am not a cloud.
How is this anything other than a means of oppressing my freedom of speech?
You know, you always make such a big deal about why people who aren’t majoring in economics shouldn’t talk about it
then you go and do this
so, from now on:
You cannot comment on hypocrisy because you are a hypocrite.
You can comment. For example, I, as a man, can comment on the fact that slut-shaming is busted as fuck. But I cannot comment on the college experience as a woman, or on how safe/unsafe my campus is, or on how dangerous a frat party is in here. Because I have never been, nor will I ever be, a woman in college.
If you are privileged, you cannot assess the situation. Unless you have experienced that specific oppression, you will NEVER understand it. You are looking from the outside in, like a window. And there is so much more to an experience than what can be seen from that crappy little window. And, yes - every specific kind of oppression is different. An Asian woman in the US will never understand what life is like for a blind gay man, even if he also lives in the US. And that blind gay man will never understand what Asian women in the US go through.
Okay, so things I’m getting really fucking tired of hearing on the internet lately: “You’re oppressing my Freedom of Speech.”
Shut the fuck up. You don’t even understand the Freedom that I’m supposedly oppressing. Presumably you’re American, since it’s usually Americans who say this shit. The Bill of Rights explicitly details the things The Federal and State Government’s Cannot Do. It’s a big laundry list of “The Government Can’t Do X.” It says absolutely fucking nothing about private citizens - I can’t violate your 1st amendment rights because I’m not the government. If I tell you that you’re a stupid, privileged, uninformed jackasses I’m being mean, maybe, but I’m not oppressing you.
The First Amendment protects you from government censorship and sanction. It does not protect you, or your speech, from criticism. If you say some stupid, ignorant, and uninformed shit and get called on it? This is the chance to have a learning experience, shut the fuck up, and listen. Crying “Oppression!” - especially if you’re a privileged as fuck asshole - just makes you look like a prick.
The commentary, all the beautiful commentary! Please read the posts. I might even copy this down and start pasting it to people who bring up this particular ‘oppression’ of their free speech (with credits given of course).